A Work In Progress.

I’ve recently made a major switch in my use of loops on stage. I’m now using ableton live as a software sampler instead of the sampler built in to the roland spd-s sampling pad. I still use the spd-s but only for triggering the loops in ableton.

ableton live!

I’m calling this a work in progress because for now i am still working out bugs and leaving hogan’s rig untouched until we decide if this route is stable enough to rely on full time. Hogan and I talked about eventually having his rig minimized with maybe a 303 sampler for a few sounds and loops he needs to run with the turntables and his synth setup. So far I am pretty impressed as ableton has not had one glitch or foul (any errors so far have been mine (sweet!)).

One of the biggest advantages to using ableton is having my click and loops locked in at all times. I can bring loops in and out of songs and all the while the click never changes. Also, ableton’s editing and clip features makes any changes to loops or arrangements quick and painless.

my live loops rig!

my live loops rig!

I’m using an edirol fa-101 as my audio and midi interface as well as my monitoring system and mixer. The hardware monitoring feature allows me to mix any of the four stereo inputs (eight if mono) with any audio from ableton to the headphone out. So my monitor mix from the engineer goes into inputs 1/2 and loops from hogan are in 7/8. I’m sending the loops from ableton out of 3/4 and the click out 5 using aux sends in ableton. Doing it this way I can monitor the loops directly and still have control of the amount i’m sending to the band both for loops and click. The spd-s is sending its midi into the edirol fa-101 to control ableton.

my live loops rig!

The little silver device is a griffin powermate. It is basically a simple usb volume knob, but I’ve implemented it as a scroll wheel and launch button for live. In its preferences you can have it send keystrokes so i used that to cursor up and down through scenes in ableton. The controller next to that is an original oxygen 8 that i’ve cut down to just the controller section and recased in plywood (kind of a temporary solution inspired by frugalpole’s stimey controller). I also removed the spring from the pitch bend wheel so i could use it as a volume fader along with the mod wheel. Eventually i want to make it a little smaller (maybe an electronincs project box) and replace all the knobs with faders and turn the key inputs into launch buttons.

Here is the back of it…

gutted oxygen 8 controller!

edit: i forgot to mention that i’m using a lexar lightning jump drive to hold the samples which makes latency from the drive practically nothing. copenhagen talked about this in another thread so i tried and it worked great. i got the lexar lightning because it boasts the most bandwidth, which is important for streaming audio. at this point the only latency i’m dealing with now is about 7ms of midi latency from the drum controller.

Tambourine

so my tracking experience might be over. the percussion stuff (tambo, bells) is usually my last chance. joy!

More Drums

I bought a rogers holiday (i think its a holiday but i’m no expert) 20×14 bass drum a few years ago. its pretty, and i love the sound of old rogers. we had a rogers kit in a jazz program i was involved with in college and i really liked them. anyway, i’ve been searching for toms to finish it out for a few years no and to no luck. i’m kinda picky. anyway. i borrowed a rogers kit from dan hamilton as well as the snare i told about and i’m using the toms with my kick in the really dry room downstairs. we’re also running the kick through a bass cab in the room to fatten up the low end a little. sounds really good.

we did a track today that needed a really big fat beat throughout. no need for toms, just a fat beat. so we took the toms away and brought out the 14×8 (big!) snare that matches the 24×16 (also big!) kick drum that were provided by kieth at risen drums. they are sounding huge. i can’t wait for all to hear. also i used a set of hats that we’re given to me by my neighbor growing up. she’s kinda the reason i started playing in the first place. these hats are pretty trashed. they are not hand hammered. more like hammered by kids for the last 30 years. and they are thin to begin with. she gave me an entire kit that is a japanese student model from the late 60’s. the original heads are still intact. you could not get their sound anywhere else. go listen to “beautiful collision” if you want a reference. i’ll have pictures for them tommorow maybe.